The sentiment surrounding the Indus Waters Treaty dispute is predominantly negative, with a strong nationalistic tone advocating for the termination or renegotiation of the treaty in favor of India. Commenters express dissatisfaction with the perceived unequal terms, asserting that Pakistan benefits unfairly while allegedly supporting terrorism. Many support India's hardline stance, but there are also concerns about humanitarian impacts, potential escalation into a broader conflict, and the role of third parties such as China. While some voices call for peace, the overarching narrative is one of skepticism and distrust toward Pakistan, with a national pride in India's ability to stand firm against cross-border threats.

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How come the terrorist attack stories are not in the main page of worldnews at all genuinely baffled

dopaminedata

I wanted to know the immediate effects it will have on Pakistan. Do we have dams and other infrastructure to restrict or divert water flow in the rivers as of now and if not then what are the options India has in terms of abolishing the treaty?
This terrorist attack is the most heinous one after the 26/11 attacks and India should take the strictest retaliationary measures.

Total_Combination850

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Was about to post the story! 

Glad you did it first! 

It's a very substantial development as Indus water treaty is a major pact between the two countries that hadn't been touched. 

Pakistan is a failed military state masquerading as an 'Ally to the west Democratic nation'. Situations are certainly starting to stirr up. Water is a very precious commodity in Pakistan owing to the extensive irrigation policies from British Era till now. 

I think we may see further rising in tensions between these two states, with this being the accelerator. 

Holy Fuck

Hrit33

It’s clear that India is done tolerating cross-border terrorism and is sending a firm message to Pakistan. I am surprised all medicine, goods exports through Dubai wasn't stopped. Still think war is coming, and this is the first stop.

funny_lyfe

Smart move, India has suspended the water treaty until cross border terrorism is stopped(which in reality would never happen hence it's indirectly suspended forever and it can't be challenged in international courts)

Suspension of visas and Wagah border ceremony is also a bold move, i wasn't expecting this much but finally govt did something

Jarisatis

Modi is a populist leader. The attackers checked ID’s and specifically killed Hindus. Not trying to directly compare this to Gaza/ October 7 but i think this attack will initiate brutal and protracted reprisal. The 1990’s were bloody in Kashmir. This could lead to widespread violence again

MaximilianClarke

I will not sugarcoat it.

The threat of blocking Indus's water is comparable to the threat of a nuke. Pakistan has to do something about Lashkar in less than 24 hours, else we are looking at a war to end all wars.

hamtaro_san-1562

It's truly worrying to consider what specific actions India will take to safeguard its citizens while reducing diplomatic ties, but it's also encouraging to see such a quick response from the Indian government, showing a genuine commitment to national security and fairness, even with these awful circumstances, which really is a small piece of hope.

Tremenda-Carucha

Western_Context8987

Both countries can’t afford a long war like Afghan war last for decades or the Russia/Ukraine war. All they will do an operations here and there and declares victory. 
What you think?
this is not AI generated comments

BestRequirement7539

But this heinous terrorist act wasn't a cross border operation. It was local terrorists.

kensanprime

What would the region look like if the British had never colonized?

Great-Audience7767

What a great effort by India govt. When people are still reeling from unmitigated disaster of unresolved Kashmir legacy. Weopnising treaty which means a dispute which was already settled is surely a way to go.This will surely bring peace to the region just like breaking of Pakistan and all five wars and supporting insurgencies in Pakistan has brought peace to the region 

secondly India have no sophisticated infa for diverting waters least it wants to risk flooding itself and time req to make such infra require at least a decade and billions of dollars also terrain is not very good for such big infrastructure. 

Thirdly this is a treaty which is backed by USA and Pak dictator only did this treaty on the assurances of uncle Sam and  India has to provide concrete evidence and logic for such action which is why it has suspended not make it null and void.If India is serious then it should have balls to abrogate it completely. Just a pol gimmick.

So nothing is gonna happen India is flexing it's muscle which will lead to nothing and after outcry dies down everything will quietly be reversed.

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The new WEF guy is the old nestle CEO who said that water is not a necessity or something along those lines. 

terapaandayaar

Chinese investment in Pakistan is already pretty much toast. I don’t think gawadar is a functional port after years of development. Pakistan needs money so they’re going with highest bidder US or China whoever. A US delegation was in Pakistan few weeks ago discussing mineral rights etc. Also I don’t think there will be a war this water issue will be resolved diplomatically, or china will threaten stop the Indus river from flowing into India even they actually have storage capacity.

Latter-Block-875

First of all, this decision was taken because of the terrorist attack that happened in Kashmir, where 4 shooters (2 from Pakistan and 2 local Kashmiri) shot and killed 28 people, (26 Hindus and 2 foreigners). The terrorists asked the victims to recite the Kalma and when they couldn’t they started shooting, the terrorists had the victims remove their pants to check if they were circumcised or not, the terrorists asked the deceased if they were Muslim or Hindu. And as of now the river hasn’t been blocked, the treaty has been suspended.

Anxious_Shape7116

I genuinely believe both India &amp; Pakistan are so unpopular globally that a war of that calibre would rage on until nukes were exchanged.

Best-Willingness-121

My bet is the terrorists were paid ops of unknown origin to deliberately stir up a crisis between both sides. More and likely Putin up to his old tricks again to take focus away from Ukraine. I doubt the terrorists took orders from Pakistan leaders.

djmelodize

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Wheredidthatgo84

Sorry state of affairs with the way Reuters and Al Jazeera have done "journalism" on India Pak issues. I can understand indian media being heavily biased in the opposite direction with their silly "entertainment first" news but this amount of shithousery from international news sites? 

RationalPsycho42

As a gesture of goodwill, India agreed to give Pakistan 80% of the water under the IWT a deal many consider unfair. Despite wars &amp; provocations, India has consistently honored that treaty. So why is it unreasonable to now ask for a more balanced share, especially when India has a significantly larger population to support?

IamAdvikaaa

Blood and water will not flow together, stop the terrorism get the water

Parking_Ear8014

India should just donate a stable government to Pakistan. I think they need that more than water

smackythefrog

Conjaybro

No country is obligated to feed its enemies.  Pakistan is at fault for causing this situation with their attacks against India.

The-M0untain

Won't the monsoons make this impossible?  I don't know if the rivers at play are affected by them or not.

beached

They don’t need water 💧 

They are interested in rivers of honey 🍯.

shoppingdiscussions

Water wars have been coming for decades. Climate change will only accelerate it. 


  Mass cheap energy and desalination plants will help some areas survive, but many are gping to die.

UnionGuyCanada

KGN-Tian-CAi

nateguo

This will be a humanitarian and ecological disaster. 

DentistCertain3897

brickyardjimmy

JKlerk

Ah the water wars….we’ve been expecting you my friend (I know they started a while back).

realized_loss

What will happen on a bigger scale in the future: various countries will have water shortages and become unliveable, sparking mass migrations and civil unrest globally.

Water Wars are coming.

This may be a bad precedent to set for us, what you do to others you can’t cry when others do the same to you.

Edit: Fellow Redditors - do you know there is another river in our country called the Brahmaputra - we are downstream and our lovely neighbours can block that water because they are allied with the military state on the left.

Sorry-Water-8530

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Bigmoochcooch

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KidJuggernaut

Blocking water by India is one of the 4 nuclear thresholds of Pakistan.

outtayoleeg

Pakistan should throw this notice in the garbage bin and send a letter back saying to go and cry to the world bank.

Longjumping_Menu_862

At the rate they're going and how the UN is considered these days, I'm wouldn't be surprised if we wake up and hear that they've done something absolutely illogical and, the world powers, as always, turn a blind eye.

Silver_Grapefruit226

Hope we wake up and stop dumping water in the sea. We shall store water and go for plantation to avoid aggressive water flow and losing agricultural land. Its mind boggling that few countries has such amount of natural water which we are blessed but like any other resource we are wasting this also

Frosty-Principle2260

Time and time again India threatens and shows off that they are not beholden to the Indus water treaty, but the men who actually handle the water have never been malicious on either side. 

Both sides know that this is all a display of power and theatrics because if they actually messed with it, an actual war may break out.

PakistaniJanissary

Blow up whatever dam they build. We need to stop fearing war. If the Indians wish for a fight than we cannot afford backing down. 

  
Let us teach the Indian in strenuous detail the effects of nuclear radiation on the human body.

AstaraArchMagus

India loves to follow Israeli model. A consistent pain the back side of a nation.

stating_facts_only

Dirty indians already infiltrating our forum.

MembershipFamous8054

It's officially done ... The treaty is revoked ... Now you'll literally beg for the waters...


And given the Brahmaputra part .. Brahmaputra doesn't only arises form tibet .. various of its tributaries are also present in the Indian side of border ... And china can't block that river since it's also one among the major livelihood rivers for Bangladesh ... But your whole country only depends an indus and it's tributaries ... 


You'll beg for water guys if you don't pressurise you army to stop these kind of terrorist infiltrations

Quirky_Ice8330

Hey watch out! Nukes are coming. I can see them.. Not in the air. But in stores!! We are scared!! We are scared!!

PublicKnowledge5212

Narrator or even that Indian person has got no clue that China is already building largest dam on Brahmaputra River. It is going to be even larger than three gorges dam so what precedent can be used against India by China? China is setting precedent which India is following.

Aapne_Gabharana_nahi

The five million Afghanis we have should be used

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Nothing will happen, because nothing ever happens.

Beneficial_Big7595

It's not suspended but being held in abeyance until Pakistan "credibly and irrevocably abjures its support for cross border terrorism". I don't know what they specifically mean by that though.

armallahR1

What happened in Kashmir is purely sad. Even the locals mourned it. There are differences and disagreements, but killing innocents is just vile. I disagree with what BLA is doing to innocent people And I definitely disagree with what happened in Kashmir.

Williamweasley

Do the irrefutable proof that it was carried out by Pakistan's support. Reads like something they have always wanted to do.

BroadRefuse

desolatoration

What does this mean for the ordinary Pakistani and the industry? Any effects?

arhamshaikhhh

They already knew we were having and would face problems with water, so they decided to do this on purpose to make things worse! Well, what else could we expect!

Top_Masterpiece_2053

India's response to Pahalgam attack appears less like a security protocol and more like a **coordinated political theatre** — rushed, disproportionate, and suspiciously convenient. No investigative findings have been made public, yet India has revoked all visas issued to Pakistani citizens, expelled diplomatic staff, reduced the Pakistani mission size by nearly half, and urged ICC to keep Pakistan out of future tournament groupings. This is **not a diplomatic response — it’s a manufactured escalation**.

But wait! We’ve seen this playbook before:   
\- Pulwama (2019)  
\- Pathankot (2016)  
\- Uri (2016)  
Each time, **Pakistan was blamed within hours**, and each time, **no international or transparent investigation was allowed**. Instead, public sentiment was inflamed, elections were won, and domestic crises were pushed out of headlines. Now once again, the pattern repeats itself—with one glaring possibility:   
  
**\[This could very well be a false-flag operation**, designed to serve **political, electoral, or military objectives.\]**

And let’s not just pretend these tactics are beneath states. History shows that governments, especially those with declining democratic norms, **have staged incidents** to:

* Justify diplomatic hostility or war posturing
* Distract from economic or political failures
* Galvanize public support through fear and nationalism
* Silence dissent by presenting an external threat

Even more troubling is the **collective punishment imposed on ordinary Pakistanis**:

* Visas cancelled, even under SAARC—a treaty India is bound to respect
* Patients, students, scholars, and pilgrims targeted indiscriminately
* Diplomatic staff treated like enemies, not counterparts

If India genuinely believed Pakistan was responsible, why avoid a third-party investigation? Why rush punitive actions instead of evidence collection? The answer lie in the **political utility** of conflict with Pakistan — it serves as a **reliable distraction** and a **nationalist adrenaline shot** for domestic audiences.

What’s also telling is the **hypocrisy in India’s geopolitical posture**. When Pakistan is made to be involved, India adopts the role of regional hegemon, issuing ultimatums and cutting ties. But when the **real giant —China — asserts itself**, India suddenly looks to the US, Quad, or other global players for support, never daring to apply the same bold aggression. That double standard exposes the **strategic bullying** at play.

I'm gonna call what it is: **selective aggression, potentially built on a lie**, and dangerously normalized under the guise of “national security.”

tormenturator

They blame anything and everything on Pakistan even without proof.

musingmarkhor

And there it is. False flag to force the issue.

Jade_Rook

So now India will turn off water like it's a tap. Band kardo bhai, if you can. Indus River system is a natural waterway.

PAKISTANIRAMBO

looks like this is what they wanted all along: false flag operation.

ISBRogue

so that was their whole plan eh. to let this terrorist attack happen and then use this as a justification to end the treaty.

Grand-Rule9068

Lol everyone on this sub who was saying 'why are posts about the Pahalgam attacks being posted here, it's India's problem not ours' ...ab araam hai? Things will get worse. There will be retaliatiory attacks. Everyone on either side of the border is going to be affected by the aftermath. Sigh.

RevolutionaryMap8820

Are mods fucking sleeping? Stop this brigading of Indians!

ImportantCheck6236

Pretty much shows what they wanted to do in the first place. A false flag operation to suspend the treaty.

Silver-Shadow2006

Modibots are here with a vengeance. Don't engage them.

googo1

They were planning to suspend it before, so they staged a false flag.

archestro

Why is India written as I\*ndia in the title of this post? Is there a rule in this subreddit that India cannot be mentioned in a title of a post? If so, then why is there such a rule? Does anyone know?

Polaris_northstar

It's a sanctioned treaty under UN and the World Bank, they cannot unilaterally abandon it. It's a gimmick pulled by their right-wing government to earn political points in the eyes of indians who are agitating for a hard measure. They will come to their senses shortly.

Ok-Maximum-8407

Hostile_Insurgent_47

rofl, this is gonna be another iran moment.

nothing ever happens.

Deadlyname1909

We need to work with China, expand nuclear power dramatically, and start desalination plants ASAP

BuffettsBrother

flysaad90

Why are you putting an asterisk, India is not a censored word on Reddit

nomiinomii

What are the moderators of this subreddit doing. The comments are filled with indians, Ban them immediately. They literally are cancelling the indus water treaty and this could escalate very quickly in the coming days. Moderators need to wake up, and kick out the ones famous for smelling bad around the world.

moneybuyspower

Is the Indian army so incompetent? They have a million soldiers lined up across occupied Kashmir and yet this so called act of terror has happened. 
There army must be asleep along the LOC!

pughlaa

No wonder why every neighbor of India hates them.

wrapcannon

Baycharo ki kali gand mein dum nahi tha militarily tou yehi ker sakte thay. Pakistanis should better start some good water management and salination as we have a bully next door.

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